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Host

Dr. Laurie Santos

Guest

Dr. Nick Epley, professor of behavioral science at the University of Chicago and author of A Little More Social

We often choose texting or email over a phone call, assuming it’s easier or less awkward. But what might we be missing?

Drawing on his research, Dr. Nick Epley explores how the warmth of someone’s voice, the natural back-and-forth of conversation, and small signs of acknowledgment can make our interactions more meaningful.

Key Takeaways:

  • The power of conversation: Discover why a genuine back-and-forth can feel more rewarding than simply exchanging messages.
  • The awkwardness myth: Research suggests phone calls can strengthen connection without being as uncomfortable as we expect.
  • Make connection a habit: Explore simple ways to create more opportunities for meaningful conversations in everyday life.

The Happiness Lab explores the latest scientific research and shares surprising and inspiring stories that challenge how we think about happiness. New episodes usually air every Monday.

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